Do Florida Residents Get PIP if Hurt in Out of State Car Accidents?

Florida Personal Injury Protection (PIP) Insurance typically pays 80% of medical bills and/or 60% of lost wages up to $10,000.

PIP (also called No-Fault Coverage) applies to accidental bodily injury suffered by an insured in a Florida auto accident.

But does a Florida resident get PIP benefits if he is hurt in a state other than Florida? 

Determining whether a Floridian gets PIP benefits is just one issue that can arise for an out of state car accident.  I wrote an article that covers the many issues that should be looked at for a Floridian who is hurt in an out of state car accident.

Another issue is how the Florida resident’s claim works against the careless driver in another state.  And then there is question of how to apply a Florida uninsured motorist insurance policy to an Floridian’s accident in another state.

Here, I focus on PIP.  Below are a few common scenarios that illustrate whether a Florida resident is entitled to Florida No-Fault Coverage in an auto accident outside Florida.

This article also gives some pointer on other insurances that may pay for medical bills, lost wages and pain and suffering.

Example #1 – Florida Resident occupying Own Car outside of Florida

Jenny owns a car in Florida.  She insures it with Progressive.  Jenny drives in her car to another state within the USA.

Another car runs a red light and crashes into her car.  Jenny is hurt and goes to the hospital.

She has a fractured foot.  The hospital sends her a bill.

Progressive will extend Personal Injury Protection (PIP) benefits to Jenny.

This is because Jenny was in her car when the wreck occurred.

Progressive’s No-Fault Coverage booklet states that No-Fault applies to the named insured outside of Florida but within the USA “while occupying your car.”

Jenny is the named insured because she purchased the Progressive coverage for her car.

Progressive will extend Jenny PIP benefits even if Jenny was partially at fault.  PIP benefits do not consider fault.

Jenny can also make a personal injury claim against of the 11 potential defendants who you can sue in an auto accident.  The careless driver’s bodily injury (“BI”) liability coverage in his or her auto insurance policy would be a potential source of payment.

The owner of the at fault vehicle may be liable as well.  Those are just two of eleven sources of possible payment.

Example #2 – Florida Relative occupying Florida Named Insured’s Car outside of Florida

Jenny owns a car in Florida.  Maria is Jenny’s daughter.  They live together.

Allstate insures Jenny’s car.  Maria drives Jenny’s car to another state within the USA.

A driver in another vehicle is not paying attention.  He hits Jenny’s car, which Maria is driving.

Maria is hurt and goes to the hospital.  Maria has a hip fracture.

The hospital sends Maria a bill.  Allstate will extend Personal Injury Protection benefits to Maria.

This is because Maria was in Jenny’s car when the wreck occurred.  Allstate’s policy considers Jenny a relative.

Allstate defines “relative” as someone who is related by blood or marriage and who resides with the named insured.  Maria is related to Jenny by blood.   Maria resides with Jenny.

Allstate’s No-Fault Coverage booklet states that No-Fault applies to the named insured “and relatives outside Florida but within the USA…while occupying your car.”

Jenny is the named insured because she purchased the Allstate coverage for her car.

Example #3 – Florida Resident is a Passenger in Someone Else’s Rental Car Out of State

Jenny owns a car in Florida.  She insures it with GEICO.  Jenny goes on vacation to another state with her friend Jose.

Jose lives in Florida and owns a car.  He rents a car in another state.

Jose is driving.  Jenny is a passenger.  Another car cuts them off and hits the rental car.

Jenny is hurt and goes to urgent care.  She has a fractured wrist.

The urgent care center sends her a bill.  GEICO will not extend Personal Injury Protection benefits to Jenny.

This is because Jenny was in a Non-Owned car in another state when the wreck occurred.

GEICO’s No-Fault Coverage booklet states that No-Fault applies to the named insured outside of Florida but within the USA “while occupying your car, a newly acquired car, or a temporary substitute car.”

Jenny is the named insured because she purchased the GEICO coverage for her car.

The GEICO policy will define a temporary substitute car as a “private passenger auto, not owned by you, temporarily used with the permission of the owner.  This vehicle must be used as a substitute for the owned auto or trailer when withdrawn from normal use because of its breakdown, repair, servicing, loss or destruction.”

The rental car does not qualify as a temporary substitute car because Jenny’s car was working fine.  Therefore, GEICO will not extend PIP benefits.

Jenny can still make a claim through the rental car’s insurance policy.  It may have PIP or Medpay coverage.

If Jenny had been the one to rent the car, the result would be the same.

Example #3b – Florida Resident is a Passenger in An Uber or Lyft car Out of State

Take Example #3a except assume that Jenny is a passenger in an Uber or Lyft car.  GEICO will not extend PIP benefits through Jenny’s Florida auto insurance policy.

However, Jenny’s health insurance may pay for her medical bills.  This will depend on the out of state’s laws regarding the priority of payment for car accidents.  Some states may require No Fault coverage to be billed before health insurance pays.  Other states may require the opposite.

The Uber or Lyft driver’s auto insurance coverage may pay for her medical bills.  This assumes that the Uber or Lyft driver had a commercial auto insurance policy.  Many auto insurers are denying coverage if an Uber or Lyft driver only has a personal auto insurance policy.

If Jenny was hurt in a No-Fault state, the Uber’s or Lyft driver’s auto insurance may pay for Jenny’s medical bills regardless of fault.  Again, this assumes that the rideshare driver purchased the proper coverage.

Currently 12 states have no-fault auto insurance laws:  Florida, Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Pennsylvania have verbal thresholds. The other seven states—Hawaii, Kansas, Kentucky,Massachusetts, Minnesota, North Dakota and Utah—use a monetary threshold.

In addition to the auto policy that the Rideshare driver purchased, the Rideshare company (e.g. Uber, Lyft, etc.) has its own liability policy.

Example #4- Florida Resident is a Passenger in Someone Else’s Car Out of State

Take example #3 except assume that Jose did not rent a car.  Assume that Jose was driving his own car.  He keeps it in Florida.

Jenny would not qualify for PIP coverage because she was not occupying her own car.

Example #5 – Named insured in a newly acquired car. Accident outside Florida.

Jenny owns a car in Florida.  She insures it with State Farm.  Jenny sells her car.

That same day, she purchases a new car.   Jenny drives her newly acquired car to another state within the USA.

Another driver is recklessly driving.  He crashes into Jenny while she is in her newly acquired car.

Jenny is hurt and goes to the hospital.  She has a shoulder (rotator cuff) tear.

The hospital sends her a bill.  State Farm will extend Personal Injury Protection (PIP) benefits to Jenny.

This is because Jenny was in a newly acquired car.

State Farm’s No-Fault Coverage (Policy booklet 9810.A) states that No-Fault applies to the named insured outside of Florida but within the USA “while occupying a newly acquired car.”

Jenny is the named insured because she purchased the State Farm coverage for her car.  State Farm would extend Jenny PIP benefits even if Jenny were partially at fault.

Jenny can also make a personal injury claim against of the 11 potential defendants who you can sue in an auto accident.

The careless driver’s bodily injury (“BI”) liability coverage in his auto insurance policy would also be a potential source of payment. The owner of the at fault vehicle may also be liable.

Those are just two of eleven sources of possible payment.

Example #6 – Temporary Substitute Car Outside of Florida

Jenny owns a car in Florida.  She insures it with USAA.

Her car is not used because of its breakdown, repair, servicing, loss or destruction.  Jenny rents a car.

She is driving the rental car in another state.  Another car cuts her off.  The car hits Jenny’s car.

Jenny is hurt and goes to urgent care.  She has a skull fracture.

The urgent care center sends her a bill.  USAA will extend Personal Injury Protection benefits to Jenny.

This is because Jenny was in a temporary substitute car in another state when the wreck occurred.

USAA’s No-Fault Coverage policy states that No-Fault applies to the named insured outside of Florida but within the USA “while occupying a temporary substitute car.”

The USAA policy defines a temporary substitute car as a “private passenger auto, not owned by you, temporarily used with the permission of the owner.

This vehicle must be used as a substitute for the owned auto or trailer when withdrawn from normal use because of its breakdown, repair, servicing, loss or destruction.”

The rental car qualifies as a temporary substitute car because Jenny’s car had a breakdown, repair, servicing, loss or destruction.  Therefore, USAA will extend PIP benefits.

Example #7 – Relative in Newly Acquired car Outside Florida

Take Example #6 except assume Jenny’s daughter Maria was driving the new acquired car in another state.  Assume Maria lives with Jenny in Florida.

USAA will extend PIP benefits to Maria.  This is because USAA’s No-Fault Coverage booklet states that No-Fault applies to the named insured “and relatives outside Florida but within the USA…while occupying your car.”

Maria is a relative.  She was occupying Jenny’s car.  Thus, she gets PIP benefits.

Can a Florida lawyer represent a Florida resident who is hurt in another state?

Several states outside of Florida allow a Florida lawyer to represent a Florida client in a pre-suit matter in the other state.  Pre-suit is before a lawsuit is filed.

This assumes that the Florida resident was hurt in the other state.

Most states require that the Florida lawyer cannot have a systematic or continuous presence in the other state for the practice of law.  This means that the Florida lawyer should not be handling multiple cases in the other state.

If a Florida resident gets hurt in a car accident caused by someone else in another state, Florida law may apply to certain aspects of the No-Fault claim. Florida law will apply to the interpretation of the Florida uninsured motorist (UM) injury liability coverage.

The Florida resident may benefit by having a Florida lawyer represent him or her in the PIP claim, and understanding the UM insurance benefits.

I do not have a systematic or continuous presence in other states.  My website specifically says “Serving Florida.”

I do not hold out to the public or represent that I am admitted to practice law outside Florida.  My disclaimer says that I am only licensed in Florida.  I do not advertise in other states.

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